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		<title>By: David Marler</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-433</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2015 18:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, it is not the government spreading misinformation and deception - it is our own UFO community doing it to ourselves. It&#039;s a self-inflicted gunshot wound people! The best way to contain this cancer in the UFO research community is to stop supporting individuals that affiliate themselves with and promote such utter nonsense. Don&#039;t invite them on radio or TV shows; don&#039;t invite them to speak at UFO conferences; don&#039;t purchase any books authored by them. If they don&#039;t have an audience, they will just go away and clear a path for credible researchers. I am personally disappointed by two researchers in particular who promoted this, since I felt they were much more intelligent and credible than this. Lesson learned!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, it is not the government spreading misinformation and deception &#8211; it is our own UFO community doing it to ourselves. It&#8217;s a self-inflicted gunshot wound people! The best way to contain this cancer in the UFO research community is to stop supporting individuals that affiliate themselves with and promote such utter nonsense. Don&#8217;t invite them on radio or TV shows; don&#8217;t invite them to speak at UFO conferences; don&#8217;t purchase any books authored by them. If they don&#8217;t have an audience, they will just go away and clear a path for credible researchers. I am personally disappointed by two researchers in particular who promoted this, since I felt they were much more intelligent and credible than this. Lesson learned!</p>
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		<title>By: Ho Svenson</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-316</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 10:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny to hear Whitley Strieber say the matter &#039;needs to be put to bed&#039;, then turn around and try to put the alien body idea back in play by following where Linda Moulton Howe breathlessly dares to lead (e.g. fake Serpo, fake CARET/drones). See his website unknowncountry.com.

Without saying whether the body *clearly established to be a museum piece* is a mummy or a misidentified alien body, it&#039;s a valid question whether it&#039;s even worth looking further when Maussan has an obvious vested interest, Howe has almost no credibility, and Strieber is willing to follow Howe anywhere while also trying to drum up listeners (this week&#039;s Dreamland is &quot;The Most Astonishing Dreamland I have Ever Done&quot;--Whitley Strieber&quot; just like every other week.)

Then when you read Strieber&#039;s Journal piece(s) on it where he tries to bring in obscure principles in physics to basically keep the slides in play - how is this not pure obscurantism? The slides are not &#039;ambiguous&#039;. Their creation appears to have been totally mundane. The only &#039;ambiguity&#039; in this case comes because no one did their due diligence. Maussan et al. didn&#039;t even think to do deblurring, which these other guys did pretty easily - probably because they were too busy amping themselves up on the images being of the &#039;Roswell Alien&#039;. And it also didn&#039;t occur to them that the photos were taken in a museum and not a government lab.

And now Strieber wants to &#039;put to bed&#039; the whole thing by asking us to listen to all Maussan&#039;s due diligence consulting anthropologists, etc., without any notice that now the scenario is shifting from Roswell-alien-in-government-lab to Steven Greer-style Atacama alien...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny to hear Whitley Strieber say the matter &#8216;needs to be put to bed&#8217;, then turn around and try to put the alien body idea back in play by following where Linda Moulton Howe breathlessly dares to lead (e.g. fake Serpo, fake CARET/drones). See his website unknowncountry.com.</p>
<p>Without saying whether the body *clearly established to be a museum piece* is a mummy or a misidentified alien body, it&#8217;s a valid question whether it&#8217;s even worth looking further when Maussan has an obvious vested interest, Howe has almost no credibility, and Strieber is willing to follow Howe anywhere while also trying to drum up listeners (this week&#8217;s Dreamland is &#8220;The Most Astonishing Dreamland I have Ever Done&#8221;&#8211;Whitley Strieber&#8221; just like every other week.)</p>
<p>Then when you read Strieber&#8217;s Journal piece(s) on it where he tries to bring in obscure principles in physics to basically keep the slides in play &#8211; how is this not pure obscurantism? The slides are not &#8216;ambiguous&#8217;. Their creation appears to have been totally mundane. The only &#8216;ambiguity&#8217; in this case comes because no one did their due diligence. Maussan et al. didn&#8217;t even think to do deblurring, which these other guys did pretty easily &#8211; probably because they were too busy amping themselves up on the images being of the &#8216;Roswell Alien&#8217;. And it also didn&#8217;t occur to them that the photos were taken in a museum and not a government lab.</p>
<p>And now Strieber wants to &#8216;put to bed&#8217; the whole thing by asking us to listen to all Maussan&#8217;s due diligence consulting anthropologists, etc., without any notice that now the scenario is shifting from Roswell-alien-in-government-lab to Steven Greer-style Atacama alien&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Viktor Golubic</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viktor Golubic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 11:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having researched the Roswell case in detail and having seen their flawed research methodooogies first hand, this comes as no surprise. They lost all objectivity years ago from my vantage point and have been promoted without careful scrutiny. This has always been about making money, not legitimate balanced scholarly research. I have been very vocal about uncovering fraud over the years and this is no exception. But, the simple truth is that this type of deception and self delusion occurs on both sides of the isle. Objectivity is very hard to maintain within a system challenging ones own beliefs and those of others. VG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having researched the Roswell case in detail and having seen their flawed research methodooogies first hand, this comes as no surprise. They lost all objectivity years ago from my vantage point and have been promoted without careful scrutiny. This has always been about making money, not legitimate balanced scholarly research. I have been very vocal about uncovering fraud over the years and this is no exception. But, the simple truth is that this type of deception and self delusion occurs on both sides of the isle. Objectivity is very hard to maintain within a system challenging ones own beliefs and those of others. VG</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 07:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is the film stock date not specific to when the photo was actually taken. So I completely agree with you Mark. Whoever said any thing about it having been taken in 1947 or even in 1949 is just pulling shit out of their asses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the film stock date not specific to when the photo was actually taken. So I completely agree with you Mark. Whoever said any thing about it having been taken in 1947 or even in 1949 is just pulling shit out of their asses.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2015 07:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which is funny because the first time I heard about it on coast to coast AM (I can&#039;t remember who the guest was) had stated that the film was dated to have been made between 1939 and 1949.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is funny because the first time I heard about it on coast to coast AM (I can&#8217;t remember who the guest was) had stated that the film was dated to have been made between 1939 and 1949.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 21:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very easy to cover up physical evidence. Just put it in a vault and it will stay there. It&#039;s almost impossible to make involved people shut up forever, but then again it&#039;s also very easy to simply lie about the existence of evidence and ridicule anyone who claims it does exist.

All we as outsiders observe is people claiming to have seen stuff like dead alien bodies, recovered flying saucers etc. etc. Of course it&#039;s very hard to prove if any of these people are telling the truth or not, because any place where the proof could be is totally off limits so it&#039;s practically impossible to check whether the proof actually exists.

As opposed to any &#039;normal&#039; scientific field in which an &#039;open&#039; study is possible, the field of ufology is frustrated by heavy restrictions, filthy politics, ridicule, lies and delusions etc. A hell of a lot of people are simply not telling the truth, whether on purpose or not, which makes it very hard to make progress.

I can imagine in a couple of centuries people will laugh their ass of when they look back at this whole pathetic saga.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very easy to cover up physical evidence. Just put it in a vault and it will stay there. It&#8217;s almost impossible to make involved people shut up forever, but then again it&#8217;s also very easy to simply lie about the existence of evidence and ridicule anyone who claims it does exist.</p>
<p>All we as outsiders observe is people claiming to have seen stuff like dead alien bodies, recovered flying saucers etc. etc. Of course it&#8217;s very hard to prove if any of these people are telling the truth or not, because any place where the proof could be is totally off limits so it&#8217;s practically impossible to check whether the proof actually exists.</p>
<p>As opposed to any &#8216;normal&#8217; scientific field in which an &#8216;open&#8217; study is possible, the field of ufology is frustrated by heavy restrictions, filthy politics, ridicule, lies and delusions etc. A hell of a lot of people are simply not telling the truth, whether on purpose or not, which makes it very hard to make progress.</p>
<p>I can imagine in a couple of centuries people will laugh their ass of when they look back at this whole pathetic saga.</p>
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		<title>By: John Alvarado</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Alvarado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2015 08:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to play the Devils Advocate. Assuming that there were in reality dead alien bodies in existence, somewhere, hidden by some super secret governmental entity, can we actually, really think that any such evidence as photos or document for that matter, would be allowed to slip through the cracks? I don&#039;t think so! Perhaps the people behind this travesty should have thought about that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play the Devils Advocate. Assuming that there were in reality dead alien bodies in existence, somewhere, hidden by some super secret governmental entity, can we actually, really think that any such evidence as photos or document for that matter, would be allowed to slip through the cracks? I don&#8217;t think so! Perhaps the people behind this travesty should have thought about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kimball</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Kimball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 17:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite simply, Simon, no (other members of the RSRG may well disagree). Sagan was right - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a claim doesn&#039;t get much more extraordinary than a dead alien being kept on ice by the government. Photos, documents, etc. can all be faked (MJ-12 being a perfect example). &quot;Witnesses&quot; might at first seem credible, but in UFO world I&#039;ve never run across one that talks of bodies who has withstood close scrutiny. So if you want to convince the vast majority of reasonable people that the government has a dead alien from a crashed flying saucer, you will have to produce the dead alien.

Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite simply, Simon, no (other members of the RSRG may well disagree). Sagan was right &#8211; extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and a claim doesn&#8217;t get much more extraordinary than a dead alien being kept on ice by the government. Photos, documents, etc. can all be faked (MJ-12 being a perfect example). &#8220;Witnesses&#8221; might at first seem credible, but in UFO world I&#8217;ve never run across one that talks of bodies who has withstood close scrutiny. So if you want to convince the vast majority of reasonable people that the government has a dead alien from a crashed flying saucer, you will have to produce the dead alien.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2015 08:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An actual dead alien body I wouldn&#039;t call &#039;evidence that points to&#039; dead alien bodies, rather conclusive proof...

The whole thing about this alien body saga is that - supposedly - dead alien bodies exist but are hidden by certain government groups who will deny the existence of the bodies and make it impossible to access the bodies.

For the sake of argument, suppose this is actually the situation, and these restrictions are unbreakable, is there anything else that you would consider &#039;credible evidence that points to dead alien bodies&#039;? Like for example documents, credible witnesses, photos or whatever?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An actual dead alien body I wouldn&#8217;t call &#8216;evidence that points to&#8217; dead alien bodies, rather conclusive proof&#8230;</p>
<p>The whole thing about this alien body saga is that &#8211; supposedly &#8211; dead alien bodies exist but are hidden by certain government groups who will deny the existence of the bodies and make it impossible to access the bodies.</p>
<p>For the sake of argument, suppose this is actually the situation, and these restrictions are unbreakable, is there anything else that you would consider &#8216;credible evidence that points to dead alien bodies&#8217;? Like for example documents, credible witnesses, photos or whatever?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kimball</title>
		<link>https://www.roswellslides.com/the-roswell-slides/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Kimball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2015 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That should be fairly obvious - an actual dead alien body.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be fairly obvious &#8211; an actual dead alien body.</p>
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